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Log Rides
« on: July 31, 2007, 03:14:17 PM »
We get plenty of downed trees, any chance we can turn some of them into a log ride?
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 04:44:56 PM »
Here's a better log ride photo:



The issue with log rides is that they are fun once or twice and then you just end up skipping them.
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 05:30:25 PM »
That video caused me to spend the last hour on YOUTube.

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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 05:36:02 PM »
That guy did not make that look fun at all!

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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 10:15:56 PM »
The issue with log rides is that they are fun once or twice and then you just end up skipping them.

It's still better than not having the option at all.
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2007, 07:55:31 AM »
The issue with log rides is that they are fun once or twice and then you just end up skipping them.


It's still better than not having the option at all.

I can kinda see your point, but when you factor in the time and effort in creating and maintaining the log ride along with the additional liability, I'd question if it was worth it.

The log ride in the picture I posted is on a trail called Shotgun at Mammoth Mountain in California.  We always hit that trail several times when we go out there but only hit the log ride once just to say we did it.  In this case, the log ride really takes away from the flow of the trail and is best skipped. 

Here's a link to a video of a race they held on that trail from last week:  http://www.mountain-biking-mammoth.com
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2007, 08:23:13 PM »
That trail looks fun but not very tech. It looked like all you would need there is a cross country bike and you could do very well! The lines at snowshoe are so much sicker.  Well, east coast versus west coast. ;)

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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2007, 10:06:45 PM »
That trail is only considered a single black at Mammoth and not one that they would usually use for races (the race they show in the video is the Mammoth Village Championship where they don't announce the trail until the day of the race and it is typically one of the double black trails on the hill so these guys were a bit over-geared for the trail).  One could easily ride it on a hardtail if they wanted, but you'd be much faster on something in the 6" travel range to better soak up some of hits at speed on the trail.  I tore that trail up back in 2000 on a Truth, but it was more fun on my Bullit and even better on the Uzzi VPX that I took there last year.

Here's a link to some pics of the double black trails there:
http://www.mammothmountain.com/gallery/gallery.cfm?gallery=71

Some other double black pics:






The riding is different out there - less in the way of roots, but more rocks.  The downhill trails tend to be longer (one can string together almost 15 miles of 99% DH singletrack at Mammoth) and more open than East Coast stuff.  Mammoth also has some interesting trail composition - most of the upper mountain is pumice which can get very loose and deep so you have to learn to 'surf' it. 
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2007, 06:57:05 AM »
Now those are some good lines! Thass what I'm talking about! :o I would definatlely want a big hit on those baby's!

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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2007, 06:58:55 AM »
That looks like fun. I think I would be wearing elbow  and knee pads though if I rode that stuff. Great pics to look at.  8) I need to downsize and simplify my life so I can go out west and ride stuff like that.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2007, 08:03:00 AM »
When I go out there, I bring my full face helmet, elbow/forearm armor, and lower leg/knee armor along with a bunch of long sleeve jerseys.  The added protection really helps with the confidence.  One of the nice things about Mammoth is that if you do take a spill, the landing is generally soft provided you don't nail a tree or a rock :)

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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2007, 09:09:49 PM »
Ok, now I'm totally kicking myself for not going INTO the resort when I was there. There was however a nice trail running from the ski resort down to the village that had super good flow.
I think a log ride would be something that some would avoid. If it was out in the open then people could choose to ride it when they want. I personally think it would be sweet.
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Re: Log Rides
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2007, 03:55:51 PM »
Here's a cool video from Mammoth that shows some people on the log ride along with some footage of some of the harder trails there: 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3954959338308409994&hl=en


Also  http://www.mountain-biking-mammoth.com has footage (2 parts, 2nd part starts after the first finishes) of last weeks DH race there on Velocity which is a sick trail.

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