Topic: Impressed with friend's Specialized Rock Hopper

[4x4TampaTaco]

   Buddy of mine just got a '09 Rock Hopper and I was impressed with how light weight that bike is. Specialized has it listed as a "XC Recreational" type bike. Has a Dart 3 shock, hard tail and options to get discs which he didn't. Compare to my Giant Rincon... much lighter.  What is the difference between the 2 frames? One thing I noticed was his bike came stock with 2.00 tires which really didn't do so hot out there in the sand, I'm much happier with my 2.10's.  With me looking at throwing money and parts at my Rincon I'm debating if I should just buy a decked out Rock Hopper and throw some nice tires on it, or maybe just get a rock hopper frame.  B/c I'm still looking at getting a Reba 100mm Fork which lighter than the Dart 3 fork. Is the rincon and rock hopper frame in different classes or something?

[SandPine]

   ... I was impressed with how light weight that bike is. ...

What is the weight?  In poundage....

[4x4TampaTaco]

Have no idea b/c I didn't weigh it. but it was flat out obvoius it was lighter than my rincon by I'd say 5#'s or so. My bike is IIRC 33? So his rock hopper is probly high 20's. His tires wer much smaller and less aggressive, but lighter tires can't be more than a 1# difference.

[eclark]

I don't know anything about the bikes, but I know about bike envy.  Bike envy is normal, we all suffer from it.  Look at TTT posts, he already wants to replace a fork on his x-wing fighter.  If you are still perfecting your riding, keep your bike just as is and replace things as they break or wear out.  You will definitely be breaking things if you are riding hard and the FL sand is he ll on parts.  New bike stuff is great, but before too long you are going to want to plunk $2k or more on a nice full suspension (or 29er or cross or super sweet HT) rig, save for that day. 

[E90X + 1.1.11]

go to bank and take out 2nd mortgage on house - spend 30-40K on bike stuff

the next week something new will come out and you will still have bike envy....lol

[4x4TampaTaco]

haha.  Not really envy.. but just like how the bike is mucher lighter duty and well suited for about the same price range. Giant has the rincon listed as a "sport" bike. Not really sure WTF that is, but I think it's overkill for what we ride. you'd think I was jumping 30' cliffs with it. I'm looking at it from a engineering point of view, just enough material to do the job. Reaps the perks of weight loss.

[Darrinw2001]

Like I said before, dont throw money at an entry level bike, rockhopper or Rincon. Save your money and buy a nice used mid-level or upper level bike. I and several friends have bought high quality bikes and upgraded little things (grips, tires, etc) to make them better.
 
When you start having to upgrade Forks, Shocks, etc, you end up spending way too much money on inferior bikes. Example, I just bought a 2 year old Full suspension mid-level bike with a Rock Shox Reba dual air fork for $100 more than the fork itself would be new... keep what you got and keep looking for a good deal on a higher quality used bike that does not need high dollar upgrades to make it better.   

[4x4TampaTaco]

that seems like good advice. I was looking at a Reba Fork and some nice tires... gonna run me like $600-$700.  The bike itself was only like $450. Does seem like a bad investment. I haven't gotten to the point where I can look at a bike and tell what level it is at.  What is considered a mid-level bike? full suspension of any kind? Seems like for the riding in FL we only need a "XC, cross country" type bike right?

[Triple T]

the next week something new will come out and you will still have bike envy....lol

So true

[BillT]

For $600 - $700, you can buy a really nice used full suspension frame and then slowly upgrade from there.
 
Some samples -
Good frame and comes with a decent amount of parts as well - http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=39619&cat=7
 
Stout frame, pretty good company - http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=39377&cat=7
 
Also search eBay for frames...you can typically find some nice prices on used/barely used/new Giant and Kona full suspension frames that will be in your price range.

[BillT]

the next week something new will come out and you will still have bike envy....lol

So true

Bah!  How could you have bike envy, Mr. Ultra Bling Bike King?

[Skinman]

1)Bike envy
2)Denial
3)Envy acceptance


You are in phase one. 
Most of the rest of us are advanced phase three.

[Darrinw2001]

Not only "Bike Envy" but you also must find what you like to ride the Best. I tried hard tails, 29er's, Full suspension, and finally found what I Really Like to ride... Although I would sell it in second if i could get a really good deal on an Ellsworth Evolve!     

[eclark]

This thread is a riot, all the usual bike envy suspects here.  Seriously though, there is definitely a little more to FL riding than just XC.  Right now there are tons of decent sized little drops all over alafia due to the erosion, I am sure there are some 2-3 footers if you look around.  You said it when you said 700 upgrade to 450 bike is definitely a bad investment.  When you buy a complete bike you save on all the components.  When I first started MTBing, I spent $300 on a '95 fully rigid giant iguana and I LOOOOOVED it, I never ended up putting a fork on it, but broke and replaced almost everything else in the next 12 months or so.  By the time me and my riding were ready for the next level, I had shopped to replace so much that I knew what I was looking for on my next bike.

[4x4TampaTaco]

I can see piecing a bike together in the MTB world is much different than 20" BMX bikes...  I'll keep this Rincon stock for now, and train. Then later on get a better bike.

[Triple T]

Bah!  How could you have bike envy, Mr. Ultra Bling Bike King?

 

[BillT]

Bah!  How could you have bike envy, Mr. Ultra Bling Bike King?

 

Just complimenting you on your bike...it is pretty much the pinnacle!

[E90X + 1.1.11]

Bah!  How could you have bike envy, Mr. Ultra Bling Bike King?

 

Just complimenting you on your bike...it is pretty much the pinnacle!

BillT is the original bling king - with fancy stable of bikes and cool colorful stickers

[ProEdgeBiker.com]

   Buddy of mine just got a '09 Rock Hopper and I was impressed with how light weight that bike is. Specialized has it listed as a "XC Recreational" type bike. Has a Dart 3 shock, hard tail and options to get discs which he didn't. Compare to my Giant Rincon... much lighter.  What is the difference between the 2 frames? One thing I noticed was his bike came stock with 2.00 tires which really didn't do so hot out there in the sand, I'm much happier with my 2.10's.  With me looking at throwing money and parts at my Rincon I'm debating if I should just buy a decked out Rock Hopper and throw some nice tires on it, or maybe just get a rock hopper frame.  B/c I'm still looking at getting a Reba 100mm Fork which lighter than the Dart 3 fork. Is the rincon and rock hopper frame in different classes or something?

Taco, what size bike do you ride?

[4x4TampaTaco]

Not entirely sure what size.... I'm 5'11". I think my Rincon is a Large frame.

[ProEdgeBiker.com]

Not entirely sure what size.... I'm 5'11". I think my Rincon is a Large frame.

OK, i was wondering, my friend has an 07' Epic comp(m) with all new parts from the 09' he bought.. he's desperate and will get rid of it cheap.

http://proedgebiker.com/?page_id=249

[ProEdgeBiker.com]

he listed it on ebay for $999

[4x4TampaTaco]

I guess my frame size is a 19".

[ProEdgeBiker.com]

I guess my frame size is a 19".

yeah @ 5"11" it should be

[Gregg]

could be an 18 too.

[4x4TampaTaco]

Rode my buddy's Rock Hopper. Lot different than my rincon...  It has a very street(y) bike feel. Geometry is odd too.  Like the Rincon a lot better for MTB'n.  Even though it's heavier 

[Scott]

Stop wasting your time and get a Trance X